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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

psyberwyche wrote:
I have a medium in my Gaslight campaign, who relies on psychometry (touch stuff to get a psychic impression) and Psychic Sense (empathy). As a keeper, I find it's vital to strike a balance between reward and penalty for using psychic powers, and I keep it very 'real world' - no super-powered telepathy or telekinesis, just flashes and clues.

In the first adventure (The Masterwork of Nicholas Forby from Sacraments of Evil), the investigators decided that the sinister statue in the garden was key to the mystery, but couldn't work out why. The medium stepped forward and decided to lay on his hands and get a clue. If you're familiar with the scenario, you'll know how unwise that was - he got his clue, but at a big SAN loss and spending half the day bed ridden due to the strain. His investigator survived, and still gets nightmares to this day...


That is interesting at least that much that I might give that a try on Classic era also, maybe to a player who knows how to go around with the talent, maybe even shamed about his talent.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's close to how we run it – it works because he's a good player. His character is more of a dilettante, who doesn't make it public knowledge that he's psychic; so when he has an 'episode' he tries to cover it up as best he can.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some AP about Cthulhu (Delta Green d20 in this case) with a psychic PC.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are psychic PCs in Ash, a play-by-post survival horror on Play@Yog-Sothoth. I believe Laraqua is using the powers from DG. One of the psychic PCs is a little girl named Dahlia, the only natural psychic, who can see past events (Psychometry). Another is one of my characters, Dr. Lionel Carpenter, who developed a psychic power - he can see the future (Precognition). He's never managed to succeed at it, but Dahlia has used her powers sometimes. There's at least one NPC with psychic powers too. He can read minds. Too bad he isn't very good at either concealing his abilities or owning up to them when he's caught at it. Any PC can develop psychic powers if "lucky" enough, but it's probably for the best not to do so. There is indeed a high price to pay, and the potential Sanity loss is only part of it. Only grief has come from psychic powers in this game.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have trouble using psychics in a game because even though the opportunity is there to create a lot of atmosphere, many players would treat it like some kind of superpower, and this (for me) goes against the whole idea of CoC.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan55 wrote:
I would have trouble using psychics in a game because even though the opportunity is there to create a lot of atmosphere, many players would treat it like some kind of superpower, and this (for me) goes against the whole idea of CoC.


The first time you hear your CoC Players referring to these abilities as psionics, you know you're in trouble.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said earlier, the one time my psychic investigator tried to solve the mystery using his powers alone, he got his fingers burned bad, and I think it's the mutual responsibility of the keeper and player to maintain a balance. I reward good play with the occasional clue or an abstract flash in his dreams. He doesn't take advantage, because he knows SAN loss and his character's reputation are on the line every time he rolls on his Psychic Sense skill...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the players in my current campaign started out with a psychic character (charlatan but with some minor talent). The exact nature of the powers were left up to me but all I did was allow him to sense that somewhere felt wrong and have limited psychometry. Both of which often had him reeling and losing 1 or 2 sanity depending.

Unfortunately that character was the first death of the campaign.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had two games with psychics. They didn't work out well, for the psychic.

First was a game I ran after picking up DG: Countdown, the players were investigating the hard to spell expat Russian cult and one of the players had Psychometry. He had it at a semi-low percent, 30 or something like that. I rolled for it randomly when something was connected to strong emotions/events. So he shakes hands with one of the priests and his roll impales. After a two minute description of a blurry dream like sacrafice with dark young and screaming children he wound up down one bucket of SAN. He never recovered.

The second time was someone else's game. We were talking with a person who could read minds. You had to be thinking about something for her to see it. She shows herself to have some mythos knowledge, we've been flailing around in the dark mostly just shooting everything and burning what can't be shot. So we start to ask her about all the things we've seen. By the time we finished she was completely insane.

I'm sure it's possible to play one as some kind of superhero, but for that you need one of a few power types and most of them don't really work that well. As an NPC living in a little NPC apartment on fourth street it's fine. But as far as an investigator running around shooting at dark young and being stabbed by cultists the powers don't work well enough as superhero territory.

Even before you start adding random possession by monsters etc they come with drawbacks and enough SAN loss to make their use hard.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ran a modern "paranormal" and not mythos game with a psychic PC. She could read objects (can't be arsed to look up the specific term right now) and get a mix of past and future imagery (some symbolic). Not surprisingly, this led to greater sanity loss due to what she saw.

Furthermore, down the road her character was going to be in tremendous peril of becoming a Wendigo cannibal (not tied to the Ithaqua idea) in a town where mindwiped military psychics had been resettled without knowledge of each other or their own pasts, and then bad things happened that specifically endangered the psychically sensitive.

For resolution, I was inspired by the Zener card system in ConspiracyX, and came up with something like target numbers vs. her POW, or something along those lines, which basically meant that depending on what she was trying to do, she had to guess 1, 2, 3, or more of the five Zener cards I had placed face-down on the table. Added a lot to game atmosphere. I'm not remembering it exactly, but you get the jist of it.

Personally, as others noted, there is nothing remotely contrary to the idea of psychic powers in Lovecraft's stories. The workings of Cthulhu involuntarily bends the minds of men thousands of miles away. The Great Race transfers consciousness across great gulfs of space and time. Whoever is in Asenath Waite's body dominates and transfers minds with relative ease. The Burning Three-Lobed Eye dominates Robert Blake. Etc. None of Lovecraft's protagonists have psychic powers, but that says less about their existence and more about the general technique of making his protagonists solid society people or college students, especially in the later Mythos stories.

However, I would not go any further with psychic powers outside of mind-connections or obtaining information remotely. Superpower-style psychokinesis and other Jedi type tricks do not fit except perhaps as the core of a particular story where things have gone horribly wrong.

That said, I'd handle it nebulously, don't have skills or disciplines or anything smacking of quantifiable psionics. It should be mysterious.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for all of the feedback so far.

I think I would have one investigator with psychic powers, but rather limited and could experience serious consequences.Twisted Evil

Keep 'em coming. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had characters with psychic feats in d20 CoC and they worked nicely.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have also had success with psychics. You just have to remmebr not to give away the farm.

I've used psychic premonition and retro-cognition in the forms of dreams.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So there are currently at least 4 different published psychic systems running around in Call of Cthulhu(BRP)?

Coming Full Circle
Delta Green Countdown
Parapsychologist's Handbook
Basic Roleplaying

Out of those books I only have Countdown.
Can anyone speak to the basic differences in the various systems?
The way the powers are developed?
Costs of Using Psychic abilties?
Relative Power Levels of the abilities?
Number of abilities described?
etc?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fallorn wrote:
So there are currently at least 4 different published psychic systems running around in Call of Cthulhu(BRP)?

Coming Full Circle
Delta Green Countdown
Parapsychologist's Handbook
Basic Roleplaying



Actually, Cthulhu D20 has some more Psychic Powers that could be shunted back into BRP.

Secrets of Japan also has a section on psychic abilities.
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